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03 May 2023 09:49:12
Greetings Ed002, would you mind sharing the situation as is regards to Frenkie De Jong please?
{Ed002's Note - Frenkie de Jong (CM) Barcelona didn't really want to sell last summer although if a significant offer (perhaps €80M) were made, their financial situation would mean they would have had to consider it and the hierarchy accept that removing his very significant wages from the books would free up space to register other players. Player wanted to stay and had no interest in moving to Manchester United. Again, this summer Barcelona will be open to a significant offer and ten Hag would certainly be open to taking the player but the player has no interest in a move. Wildcard may be Chelsea - but not first choice. Huge wages.}
03 Aug 2022 12:12:26
Hello Ed002
Could you provide an update on Frenkie De Jong please?
{Ed002's Note - Frenkie de Jong (CM) Barcelona don't really want to sell although if a significant offer (perhaps €80M) were made, their financial situation would mean they would have to consider it and the hierarchy except that removing his very significant wages from the books would free up space to register other players. He was seen as a Tolisso upgrade for Bayern Munich but they had already committed to another. During discussions between Barcelona and Chelsea options for a number of players were discussed but Chelsea do not again want protracted negotiations which led nowhere over another player last summer - they may make a take it or leave it offer including a player or perhaps two, and that may suit Barcelona. Manchester City may provide another solution using Laporte or Silva as part of the deal - and don't be surprised if PSG switch their attention to him, but they have preferred targets. Manchester United did switch their attention to de Jong but have failed to persuade the player to join them - and it would be a hard sell for MU without Champions League, although no doubt having a coach he knows well will help. Manchester United are still talking to Barcelona about the player but at some point will revert to other ideas as his "agent" has told Barcelona he will not be leaving to join Manchester United and they do not want to negotiate a new contract. His agent has spoken again with Chelsea and Manchetser City and Barcelona are still talking to Chelsea about others but difficulties are arising. Therefore, he may well stay where he is.}
17 Jul 2022 11:59:25
Happy Sunday to you Ed002.
With Frenkie De Jong joining the club pre-season tour, does this make his move to Manchester United less likely?
{Ed002's Note - I have explained, he does not want to move to Manchetser.}
09 Jul 2022 15:03:11
Hello Ed,
Who is the player that Barcelona are set to announce the departure of imminently?
{Ed002's Note - Lenglet.}
1.) 10 Jul 2022 08:50:11
Thank you Ed002. What is the situation now with De Jong? When does this never ending story, end?
{Ed002's Note - Frenkie de Jong (CM) Tolisso upgrade for Bayern Munich but Barcelona don't want to sell although if a significant offer (perhaps €90M) were made, their financial situation would mean they would have to consider it. There is a chance that a deal involving Lewandowski and cash could see something happen. During discussions between Barcelona and Chelsea, options for a number of players were discussed but Chelsea do not again want protracted negotiations which led nowhere over another player last summer - they may make a take it or leave it offer including a player or perhaps two. Manchester City may provide another solution using Laporte or Silva as part of the deal - and don't be surprised if PSG switch their attention to him but have preferred targets. Manchester United did switch their attention to de Jong but have failed to make an acceptable offer to Barcelona - and it would be a hard sell for MU without Champions League, although no doubt having a coach he knows well will help. Manchester United are still talking to Barcelona about the player but at some point will revert to other ideas. And he may well stay where he is.}
2.) 10 Jul 2022 13:00:42
Thank you - so nothing has changed?
{Ed002's Note - At this time no.}
3.) 11 Jul 2022 18:56:36
Mourtagh and arnold have been in Barcelona today so hopefully we'll get some positive news in the next couple of days i don't think arnold is usually at these kinds of meetings so could be an indication things are getting serious but i don't know.
{Ed002's Note - I would wait a day or two before holding your breath.}
4.) 11 Jul 2022 21:16:08
Well hopefully there will be a resolution one way or another soon based on that then ed.
I did wonder there has been a lot of talk surrounding this deal about the deffered wages of de jong and Barcelona wanting him to reduce his wage if his is to stay at barca.
It seems very strange as he is supposed to get paid a large amount over the next 2 years i believe to get this back my question is isn't that a rather questionable thing for Barcelona to do for me it would look a lot like Barcelona asking the player to write off a loan.
I understand the drop would probably be for his basic wage and then they might look to spread the cost of the deffered wages across the contract to make it impact less over the next 2 years and look more professional but it seems a very bad practice to put yourself in?
If i'm completley wrong just say its seems a very big mess.
5.) 13 Jul 2022 09:48:12
Good morning Ed002. Did Mourtagh and Arnold make progress?
{Ed002's Note - There is no final agreement.}
6.) 13 Jul 2022 12:56:43
So some things have been agreed?
{Ed002's Note - Yes.}
7.) 13 Jul 2022 13:27:39
Good job i checked this ed i was about to start holding my breath lol.
The lads just needs a chill in amsterdam clear the cobwebs get their mojo going again before another crack in Barcelona thursday maybe friday haha.
8.) 13 Jul 2022 14:09:30
The move to United looking more likely now then Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - No.}
9.) 13 Jul 2022 14:21:30
I’m confused ????
{Ed002's Note - The player has no interest in dropping down a level or two.}
10.) 14 Jul 2022 11:35:33
Surely the player has spoken to ETH and given some sort of assurances that he would be open to a move over to United, otherwise why do they persist?
11.) 14 Jul 2022 18:23:13
Thinking it might be time to start holding my breath now ed?
{Ed002's Note - Perhaps tomorrow - in time for the weekend.}
12.) 14 Jul 2022 23:59:50
Hahaha cheers ed
29 Jun 2022 11:24:19
Hello Ed,
Is it time to start telling myself that Frenkie De Jong will be playing for Manchester United next season?
{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't.}
1.) 29 Jun 2022 14:20:12
Interesting - you think a deal might fall through?
{Ed002's Note - There is no deal at this point.}
2.) 02 Jul 2022 09:37:01
My apologies for requesting similar info but has there been any developments in this regard?
{Ed002's Note - No.}
3.) 02 Jul 2022 09:48:05
Do you think this signing will happen for Manchester United, Ed?
{Ed002's Note - Possibly.}
4.) 13 Jul 2022 16:22:15
As mentioned a bit above ed is the deferred wage and Barcelona not wanting (maybe to pay the full amount) or not being able to pay what is owed part of the problem?
Understand if its something you don't want to get into.
{Ed002's Note - No, it is not the issue.}
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03 Jul 2022 19:45:55
Good evening Ed002.
I noticed on one of the English club pages (Chelsea I think) you mentioned there was a complication holding up any possible De Jong departure. Are you able to explain?
{Ed002's Note - This is tedious.}
12 Aug 2022 19:46:48
So, is that a no?
11 Aug 2022 15:37:00
Will he go to MUFC, Ed?
{Ed002's Note - Frenkie de Jong (CM) Barcelona don't really want to sell although if a significant offer (perhaps €80M) were made, their financial situation would mean they would have to consider it and the hierarchy except that removing his very significant wages from the books would free up space to register other players. He was seen as a Tolisso upgrade for Bayern Munich but they had already committed to another. During discussions between Barcelona and Chelsea options for a number of players were discussed but Chelsea do not again want protracted negotiations which led nowhere over another player last summer - they will make a take it or leave it offer perhaps even including a player, and that may suit Barcelona. Manchester City may provide another solution using Laporte or Silva as part of the deal - and don't be surprised if PSG switch their attention to him, but they have preferred targets. Manchester United did switch their attention to de Jong but have failed to persuade the player to join them - and it would be a hard sell for MU without Champions League, although no doubt having a coach he knows well will help. Manchester United agreed a fee with Barcelona for the player but will revert to other ideas as his "agent" has told Barcelona he will not be leaving to join Manchester United and they do not want to negotiate a new contract. His agent has spoken again with Chelsea and Manchester City and Barcelona are still talking to Chelsea about others, but difficulties are again arising. Therefore, he may well stay where he is - whoch will upset Barcelona - or he may opt to join Chelsea.}
14 Jul 2022 11:35:33
Surely the player has spoken to ETH and given some sort of assurances that he would be open to a move over to United, otherwise why do they persist?
13 Jul 2022 14:21:30
I’m confused ????
{Ed002's Note - The player has no interest in dropping down a level or two.}
13 Jul 2022 14:09:30
The move to United looking more likely now then Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - No.}